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A big part of the riot?

"Jose L. Rodriguez captured footage of the incident for Twitter, saying some of the passengers were upset because they were bound for a graduation ceremony, which they would miss due to the canceled flight."​

Once again for all our readers: avoid last minute flights and/or airlines that can't get you there in time when a flight is cancelled unless you can "afford" to miss the event.
 

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Once again for all our readers: avoid last minute flights and/or airlines that can't get you there in time when a flight is cancelled unless you can "afford" to miss the event.
Hi VoR61

Such good advice and the same advice that DOT gives. It states in its guidance to flyers:

"If the purpose of your trip is to close a potentially lucrative business deal, give a speech or lecture, attend a family function, or connect to a cruise, you might want to allow a little extra leeway and take an earlier flight. In other words, airline delays aren't unusual, and defensive planning is a good idea when time is your most important consideration."
 
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And ...

"Spirit Airlines (SAVE) shares descended 5% on Tuesday after nine flights out of a Florida airport were canceled the night before, leading to fist fights between travelers and multiple arrests."
 

Neil Maley

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That's true for any airline. If you are traveling for a specific event, always try to allow extra time for delays or other airline issues.
How about getting there the day before?

Our grandson is receiving his first communion Saturday. My wife is leaving Thursday to make sure there are no issues.

She has a meeting in D.C. June 5. She is getting into Washington June 3 so she doesn't have to worry about missing it.

Doesn't anyone have common sense anymore? If it's that important, get a hotel room for an extra night.
 
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How about getting there the day before?

Our grandson is receiving his first communion Saturday. My wife is leaving Thursday to make sure there are no issues.

She has a meeting in D.C. June 5. She is getting into Washington June 3 so she doesn't have to worry about missing it.

Doesn't anyone have common sense anymore? If it's that important, get a hotel room for an extra night.
But these are the same people who think only about price when booking plane tickets and nothing else enters into the equation. They just assume it will work out and probably have zero clue about interline agreements and Spirit's lack thereof. And since they're so price conscious they'd never consider paying for additional hotel nights.
 
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But these are the same people who think only about price when booking plane tickets and nothing else enters into the equation. They just assume it will work out and probably have zero clue about interline agreements and Spirit's lack thereof. And since they're so price conscious they'd never consider paying for additional hotel nights.
But it's unconscionable to pay for cheap flights without a backup plan and complain about the results. If you must be somewhere by Friday at 4PM and you book a flight that arrives Friday at 2PM, you are in trouble if that flight is delayed. Reminds me about the axiom: "The bitterness of poor quality (no backup plan) remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."

How many of those we get here, and do not have to do with one particular airline. If you're there to hang out with Uncle Rufus and Aunt Sissy, maybe the next day works. Same for hangin' at the beach. But graduations, weddings, cruises, etc. - factor some leeway into your flights, because these events won't wait for you!
 
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I couldn't agree more but that's just the mentality of so many people. The ones who complain when things go wrong are usually the same ones who expect Singapore Air First Class at bare bones Spirit prices.
 

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Adding to this- many routes flown by Spirit and Allegiant are not daily...Tues and Fri for example, and out of secondary, underused airports. When a flight is cancelled, the "next" flight may not be for a few days and there may not be seats available. The primary airport with other airlines may be 1-3 hours drive time away, and the fare will be at the expensive, last minute "walk-up" price.
 
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Adding to this- many routes flown by Spirit and Allegiant are not daily...Tues and Fri for example, and out of secondary, underused airports. When a flight is cancelled, the "next" flight may not be for a few days and there may not be seats available. The primary airport with other airlines may be 1-3 hours drive time away, and the fare will be at the expensive, last minute "walk-up" price.
Exactly! And I've seen this with Southwest at times ...
 

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Making proper travel arrangements to deal with potential problems is all well and good. But the issue here is that people are behaving like animals when they don't get what they want. This has to stop. Obviously the punishment is not adequate, as the victim/mob mentality seems to be escalating. If the perps aren't punished, people will just do something even more outrageous next time. The US is not a third world country and we should not be tolerating behaviour like this under any circumstances.
 
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Making proper travel arrangements to deal with potential problems is all well and good. But the issue here is that people are behaving like animals when they don't get what they want. This has to stop. Obviously the punishment is not adequate, as the victim/mob mentality seems to be escalating. If the perps aren't punished, people will just do something even more outrageous next time. The US is not a third world country and we should not be tolerating behaviour like this under any circumstances.
Agreed. But if even one or two readers heed our advice and avoid this scenario in the future, it's worth saying is it not?
 
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They just assume it will work out and probably have zero clue about interline agreements and Spirit's lack thereof.
This situation is being discussed in a FB group I follow and one lady was stuck in the mess. She said Spirit was putting passengers on Delta and SWA. So if the situation is bad enough and their fault, Spirit will use other airlines to move passengers. Even if they don't have interline agreements, they can probably still use ID90 fares (if space is available).
 
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Making proper travel arrangements to deal with potential problems is all well and good. But the issue here is that people are behaving like animals when they don't get what they want. This has to stop. Obviously the punishment is not adequate, as the victim/mob mentality seems to be escalating. If the perps aren't punished, people will just do something even more outrageous next time. The US is not a third world country and we should not be tolerating behaviour like this under any circumstances.
The lack of civility these days is everywhere. I agree this type of behavior should be punished appropriately rather than rewarded. Unfortunately it has become almost acceptable and too many businesses capitulate to it. That certainly doesn't happen at my office. I'll dismiss a patient in a second if he/she acts in this manner or is a jerk. I don't need or want people like that here and neither do my other patients, the vast majority of whom are nice and respectful.
 
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This situation is being discussed in a FB group I follow and one lady was stuck in the mess. She said Spirit was putting passengers on Delta and SWA. So if the situation is bad enough and their fault, Spirit will use other airlines to move passengers. Even if they don't have interline agreements, they can probably still use ID90 fares (if space is available).
They did it this time but look at how bad it got before they did. It's doubtful they would do this on a regular basis.
 
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The more people see bad behavior on today's 24 hour news cycle, the more they become inured to it. Consequently they think it's acceptable to be demanding and out of control, with no thought as to what's civil and what isn't. Considering that the news outlets' credo is, "If it bleeds, it leads" we're simply going to see more and more of these stories, and the more we see, the worse our behavior will get. It's a self-perpetuating cycle.