Violation of human right to call

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Nate, you have received a lot of good opinions and advise. We could continuing batting this back and forth, but that is not going to resolve your situation.

In this case, since you haven't been able to get Verizon to come around, I believe @AAGK advise in post #6 is something you should consider.

Best of luck.
 

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I can choose to have a cell phone. Yes. I chose to have a cell phone. So you are saying I should be thankful that I have access to a cell phone and be quiet and pay more than an average american for access to communication?
If you are paying more than the average American for your phone plan, then change your phone plan and find a less expensive one. Phone plans change all the time, call the company you have your device through and ask them for a less expensive service.

There are millions of other people with disabilities that are able to use cell phones. As I said before- how did you manage before we had cell phones with video?
 
#43
If you are given the opportunity to call, everyone else in the world should be able to call.

If you can drink water from tap, everyone else in the world should be able to drink from tap.

I would like to hear more from you, sir.
more? Sure. Drinking water from a tap is not a right. Its a condition of society.
There was no 'tap' 150 years ago - dd they have a right? No. Because its not a basic human right. Clean water - not a right. Its a judgment call. Human judgment decrees such and so is 'necessary,' but its not osmething you are born with.

There is no human right to make a phone call.

Even if you are deaf or unable to call - your 'right' is created by statute. Thus- its not a right. its a guarantee of access to a telecommunications device in your home. There is no right to a telecom device in Peru, or China. Thus, its not a right.

Anything you PAY for is not a right. Health care- not a right. Water - not a right. Food, not a right. People starve all the time.

Your God given right is the liberty. To make choices for yourself. Everything else is created by law.

what if I say I have a right to only date blondes with certain preferred hysical characteristics and I get a government to say thats a right . . . is it? Its the same with your telecom 'dilemma.' Its a value judgment expressed in a rule. Those are not rights and change on a whim.
 
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A terrorist lives in the united states. He calls his mother through his home land line to his mother's residence somewhere else in the united states. They have a conversation where they both understand each other. They hang up and walk away happy from the phone.

I live in the united states, I cannot use the land line. I cannot call my mother. She's alive, she can't call me because we both have no way to call each other and understand each other. We both are sad.

By this scenario, does that make me lower than a terrorist based on the right to access?

This is exact proportion of a terrorist wheeling his mother in a wheelchair, there's a ramp that helps them access the store happy. Everyone else uses the stairs. I wheel in my mother. I see the ramp. Wait! A security guy stops us. "Pay up. You need to pay $15 just to access the ramp every time you want to use it."

I have to pay extra just to be able to call anyone in the world on Verizon's data.

I would GLADLY pay extra to have unlimited, to the tune of the eliminated phone plan's cost, say $30 for unlimited calling and texting (no data). So which means, $60 for 6gb data plus $30 for unlimited texting and calling. That would mean $90 a month for the access to data including 6gb and text messaging minus the ability to call people on cell phone line, changing the data to unlimited.

Wouldn't that be more fair?
If it is any consolation, even with unlimited data, your phone will either not get a signal or have a dead battery just when you need it most anyway, like the rest of us.
 
#45
What you are saying, boiled down to its root, is that society must pay for your lack of hearing.

Why?

It is YOUR value judgment. You are entitled to your opinion right up until it hits my pocket book.

I have Type II diabetes. Should you pay for my increased meal cost because I eat more vegetables and protein rather than cheap carbohydrates?

I am presently funding your services with my phone bill taxes.

Isn't the 'right' to health also a right you would agree with?

So should I send you my increased food bills? We can see what 'normal' non-diabetic person at my age pays for food - and you can pay my increased cost because I eat better.

I can appreciate intellectually the difficulties living in a world without sound creates. But it does any additional rights . . .
 

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What you are saying, boiled down to its root, is that society must pay for your lack of hearing.

Why?

It is YOUR value judgment. You are entitled to your opinion right up until it hits my pocket book.

I have Type II diabetes. Should you pay for my increased meal cost because I eat more vegetables and protein rather than cheap carbohydrates?

I am presently funding your services with my phone bill taxes.

Isn't the 'right' to health also a right you would agree with?

So should I send you my increased food bills? We can see what 'normal' non-diabetic person at my age pays for food - and you can pay my increased cost because I eat better.

I can appreciate intellectually the difficulties living in a world without sound creates. But it does any additional rights . . .
And on that note...

...this thread is closed.

Grant
 
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